Ron Paulbots Really Have It In for Herman Cain

Bookmark and Share  I recently observed some of the bantering going on at the Ron Paul Forum and noticed that Ron Paul fanatics despise Herman Cain even more than I thought.

Referring to a White House 2012 article on Herman Cain’s 2004 senate race in Georgia, one Paulbot tries to suggest that Cain is a liar because in his recent interview with Piers Morgan, Cain claimed that he made an impressive showing in that race.  The creator of this particular Ron Paul Forum thread also suggests that Cain lied because in that same interview Cain he refered to that same election by stating  “I almost pulled it off. I came within 2 percentage points.”

The truth is that Herman Cain’s descriptions of his 2004 senate campaign are not lies.  The fact that Herman Cain, a relative unknown and a definite political novice, came in second in a race against two well established incumbent congressmen is impressive.  And as was stated in the White House 2012 referenced earlier, the campaign team of Johnny Isakson, the man who went on to win that senate race,  state that Cain gave them a good scare and a run for their money.

As for the claim that Cain lied when he stated that he came within two percent in that race, what the accuser does not understand is first, what they are talking about, and second, that Cain’s reference to 2%, is a reference to the fact that had he polled a fraction more than 2%, he would have forced Isakson in to a runoff election for the Republican nomination.  In Georgia, no one can win an election without more than 50% of the vote.  That was noted in White House 2012.

Despite the truth, respondents in this particular thread go on to write things such as;

“I honestly believe that he [Cain]  is the most dishonest man I have ever heard of in my entire life. It’s one thing for Romney to flip flop on every thing over the course of a few years. Cain is lying and changing positions every day now, and some times twice.”     

To which “Cutlerzzz” replies;

“Seriously. He’s either a compulsive liar, or a major flip flopper.”  

Pauliticalfan chimes in with “Seriously. He’s either a compulsive liar, or a major flip flopper.”

Ron Paul’s kool-aid swigging base goes on with their attempt to make Cain out to be a liar, based on the remarks he made about 2004 senate campaign.  And then “Bruno” suddenly adds;

“So Cain is ‘not a politician’  only because he has failed numerous times to become one?  Interesting.  Let’s help keep that trend going so he can still say he is not a politician in 2012.”

The funny thing is that “Bruno’s” signature in the Ron Paul Forum is a quote from Ron Paul that reads;

“I’m not just trying to win or get elected. I am trying to change the course of history”

And therein lies the hypocrisy of Paulbots and Ron paul himself.  If he is not running to get elected, why has been running for and getting elected to office for two decades and is now embarking on his third race for President?  I dare suggest that if after 17 runs for elected office, and two decades in office, if you haven’t changed history yet, I doubt you will do it next the 14 months.  I will also add that if anyone is a politician it is someone has been in politics and playing it for more than a quarter of century.

I find it truly hysterical that Ron Paul’s base is quick to call others liars and denounce the game of politics when their own messiah, Ron Paul himself lies about his own record and both he and his supporters are so willing to play political games themselves.   We are talking about a man who while preaching fiscal responsibility and pushing for the federal government to get our lives, is earmarking hundreds of millions of dollars to have the federal subsidize a study on shrimp.  And as for his supporters, while they preach the ills of politics, as demonstrated in their attempted lynching of Herman Cain, are quick to play politics and distort the record and words of Herman Cain.

And tomorrow, they will drop their focus on Cain and aim it towards the next Republican who is beating Ron Paul at the top of the polls.

Meanwhile, all Ron paul supporters are doing is running an ad hoc Obama reelection committee.  For in the end, if they succeed, the reelection of Barack Obama is all that they will achieve.

To be sure, Herman Cain has no love lost for Ron Paul and his dangerous, lunatic, fringe supporters.  In the same Piers Morgan interview dealot with earlier, Cain made it clear that he thinks that of elected President,. Ron Paul would be quite bad for America.  Cain adds that he disagrees with Paul’s solutions that simply throw the baby out with the bath water.  And as for Paul’s supporters, there again there is no love lost.

In his book, “This Is Herman Cain”, Cain claims that Paul’s supporters are “threatened”  by him and  that they are “trying to destroy” him “on the fact that I was once affiliated with” the  Federal Reserve.

After reading this thread about Herman Cain that comes from Ron Paul’s fans, it appears to me that Herman Cain is not the liar, but that those who doth protest too much are.

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A Look Back at Herman Cain and His 2004 U.S. Senate Primary Election

  Bookmark and Share  Since Herman Cain has spent the last two weeks towards the front of the pack in the G.O.P. presidential field, many people have begun to take notice of him.  And they like what they see.  His rise from the bottom tier to top tier of candidates has also given many who liked Cain, but thought it impossible for him to get anywhere, reason to now jump on the Herman Cain bandwagon, or at least good reason to seriously consider doing so.  But with this new-found popularity, and his new image as a threat to previous frontrunners, now makes Herman Cain a target.  Up to now his Republican opponents have had no reason to go after Cain.  Instead, because he has always been a likeable guy, many of those running against Cain, spared him from any negative attacks on his positions.  The thinking was, he’s a nice guy who people like and is not standing between them and the GOP presidential nomination, so why go after him and risk turning off his supporters.  That has all changed now.

Still, no matter what, Herman Cain is the candidate whom people most like a person.  As such, to go after him on anything but the issues, would backfire on them.  They can’t really attack Cain for not having held elected office.  That is something that people like about him and which Cain could easily turnaround and use against those who want to harp on his lack of experience as a Washington, D.C. politician.  So trying to take Herman Cain down is something that the other candidates must be careful about.  At the same time, Herman Cain has to now be able to hold up to the scrutiny that comes with his frontrunner status.  He will have to demonstrate that he has a better knowledge of foreign affairs and is well equipped to go toe to toe with people like Vladimir Putin or  Mahmoud Abbas, and control the room.  He must show that he is capable of  not playing second fiddle even when sitting along side of allies like Angela Merkel, David Cameron, Benjamin Netanyahu or Nicolas Sarkozy others.

None of this is impossible for Cain to do.  It can all be achieved.  But to do so, he will have to begin to raise substantially more money than he has had up to now and he is going to have to start picking up some of the top Republican strategists and Party insiders in the nation.

One may think that doing so would undermine one of Cain’s greatest attributes, his lack of participation in Party politics and political games.

However, the Republican Party and the process that you go through to become its nominee is undeniably political.  It involves a political Party in a process that is essentially run by politicians.  So avoiding the politics behind it all is just not realistic.  It would be like trying to play baseball with  a Jai Lai cesta.  It just doesn’t work.  So far Herman Cain has still not relied on a campaign staff that has the knowledge, and experience needed in a presidential election.   He doesn’t even have those well placed political connections that can provide him with some of the ins and outs of of Party politics and help him cut through some of the political red tape.

Cain is now aware of all that.  He learned that when in 2004, he ran for U.S. Senate in Georgia.  He found himself in a three way primary against  incumbent Congressmen Johnny Isakson and Mac Collins,  In that race, Isaksaon was largely the Romney-like candidate,  He was seen as the moderate.  But Cain and Collins were the two conservatives opposing him. Cain and Collins both hoped to deny Isakson a majority on primary day in order to force him into a two man runoff with one or the other.  During the campaign, Mac Collins tried to paint Cain as a moderate, accusing him  of having supported affirmative action programs.  For his part Cain argued that he was a conservative and noted that he opposed the legality of abortion except when the mother’s life is threatened.

On the day of the primary Cain finished a distant second to Johnny Isakson who pulled overe 50%, thereby avoiding a runoff.  The final results were Isakson won 53.2%, Cain 26.2%, Collins 20.6%.

Now, in 2011, those senate primary vote totals tell a story that is quite similiar to the problem that we see for conservatives in the Republican presidential contest.  The division of the conservative vote among several candidates, including Herman Cain, has so far allowed Mitt Romney, the perceived moderate in the field, to find himself with a slim majority of Republican support.  Now in addition to the benefit that provides Romney , we find out that working for Mitt Romney is strategist Stuart Stevens who was a consultant to Johnny Isakson during that same 2004 senate primary which beat Cain.

How much of advantage that will give Romney if Herman Cain continues to give Mitt a run for his money, is still unknown.  But Stuart Stevens knows one thing.  Never underestimate Herman Cain.  He tells The Atlantic, “He scared the heck out of us”.  Realizing that means that Mitt Romney has a strategist who will not make the mistake of underestimating Herman Cain.

But Herman Cain also walked away from his 2004 primary with some important lessons learned.  One of them was that if he was going to run for President, he was going to have to get in the race early.  One of the reasons Cain feels he lost the 2004 primary was because he entered that race late.

Meanwhile, the firm that Romney strategist Stuart Stevens represents, SSG consulting, lists the 2004 race that  they ran to defeat Cain with, as case study.

       Case Studies

         Johnny Isakson – 2004

           HISTORY: Johnny Isakson is a long-time client – we worked to elect him to Congress during the 1999 special election.

           CHALLENGE: Beat two candidates in Primary and win by 50% to satisfy state’s threshold requirement.  Go on to win general election.

 STRUCTURE: Develop strategic plan based on financial discipline.  Do not answer every charge.  Let opponents spend money on air and   hold off on television advertising.  Strike at high volume before primary to boost numbers, position as the conservative choice – keep opponents at bay to win over 50% of vote to avoid run-off.

EXECUTE: Isakson wins the primary with 51% of the vote, avoiding a runoff.  He goes on to win the general election with 58% of the vote – the largest margin ever for a Republican in Georgia.

In 2004, Herman Cain came out of nowhere in the Georgia Senate primary and made a name for himself as a true conservative leader in Georgia.  He was a virtual unknown who wound up challenging two incumbent Congressmen, beat one of them, and gave the other a surprising scare.  So far, he’s repeating his better than expectedelectoral performance .  But now he must he must somehow do what he could not do in the 2004 primary…….. consolidate all of the conservative vote.

Below is a look at he tried to do that in 2004 when he ran a series of ads that touted what he called his message……… Common sense.

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